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** [179] In this kind of action our friend Marcus Bucculeius, a man not a fool in my opinion, and very wise in his own, and one who has no aversion to the study of law, made a mistake lately, in an affair of a somewhat similar nature. Click on ** to go to the translator's footnotes. Both the specialist and the general reader will be fascinated by the Stoics' analysis of the causes of grief, their classification of emotions by genus and species, their lists of oddly named character flaws, and by the philosophical debate that develops over the utility of anger in politics and war. c. 87. [144] L   "I had heard also what is taught about the adornment of a speech; in regard to which it is first directed that we should speak correctly and in pure Latin; next, intelligibly and with perspicuity; then gracefully; then suitably to the dignity of the subject, and as it were becomingly; and I had made myself acquainted with the rules relating to every particular. Who does not know that Q. Varius, your equal in age, a clumsy, uncouth man, has obtained his great popularity by the cultivation of such faculties as he has ? (31)   Illa tempora atque illa aetas. For if the multitude of suits, if the variety of cases, if the rabble and barbarism of the forum, afford room for even the most wretched speakers, we must not, for that reason, take our eyes from the object of out inquiry. [175] L   "But what if the cases are not trivial, but often of the utmost importance, in which disputes arise concerning points of civil law ? [98] And since each of you has opened a way to these subjects of our research, and since Crassus was the first to commence this discourse, do us the favour to acquaint us fully and exactly what you think about the various kinds of eloquence. [97] For I, who from my early youth, have felt a strong affection for yon both, and even a love for Crassus, having never left his company, could never yet elicit a word from him on the method and art of speaking, though I not only solicited him myself, but endeavoured to move him through the agency of Drusus; on which subject you, Antonius, (I speak but the truth,) never failed to answer my requests and questioning, and have very often told me what you used to notice in speaking. See also Grotius, ii. Robert G. Nisbet (1939) Cicero: In L. Calpurnium Pisonem Oratio. [157] The memory is also to be exercised, by learning accurately by heart as many of our own writings, and those of others, as we can. The writings of Marcus Tullius Cicero constitute one of the most famous bodies of historical and philosophical work in all of classical antiquity. "We shall, then, first ask of you," said Sulpicius, "what you think of what Antonius has proposed; whether you think that there is any art in speaking?" Just. [170] I consider my relation, Publius Crassus, who from his wealth had the surname of Dives, ** to have been, in many other respects, a man of taste and elegance, but especially worthy of praise and commendation on this account, that (as he was the brother of Publius Scaevola) ** he was accustomed to observe to him, that neither could he ** have satisfied the claims of the civil law if he had not added the power of speaking (which his son here, who was my colleague in the consulate, has fully attained); nor had he himself ** begun to practise, and plead the cases of his friends, before he had gained a knowledge of the civil law. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Wissenschaftliche Kommentare Zu Griechischen und Lateinischen Schriftstellern Ser. Ellendt supposes that id egisse may mean ei rei operam dedisse. "It was," replied Crassus, "because I knew that there was in both of you excellent and noble talents for oratory, that I have expressed myself fully on these matters; nor have I adapted my remarks more to deter those who had not abilities, than to encourage you who had; and though I perceive in you both consummate capacity and industry, yet I may say that the advantage of personal appearance, on which I have perhaps said more than the Greeks are wont to say, are in you, Sulpicius, even godlike. See ii. Cicero, De Oratore Book 1 Translated by J. S. Watson Formatted by C. Chinn I. [149] L   "I like that method," replied Crassus, "which you are accustomed to practise, namely, to put forward a case similar to those which are brought on in the forum, and to speak upon it, as nearly as possible, as if it were a real case. [173] For to flutter about the forum, to loiter in courts of justice and at the tribunals of the praetors, to undertake private suits in matters of the greatest concern, in which the question is often not about fact, but about equity and law, to swagger in cases heard before the centumviri, ** in which the laws of prescriptive rights, of guardianship, of kindred, ** of agnation, ** of alluvions, circumluvions, ** of bonds, of transferring property, of party walls, lights, stillicidia, ** of wills, transgressed or established, and innumerable other matters are debated, when a man is utterly ignorant what is properly his own, and what his neighbour's, why any person is considered a citizen or a foreigner, a slave or a freeman, is a proof of extraordinary impudence. [137] L   "I conceive, however," proceeded Crassus, "that when you have heard me, you will not so much admire what I have said, as think that, when you desired to hear, there was no good reason for your desire; for I shall say nothing abstruse, nothing to answer your expectation, nothing either previously unheard by you, or new to any one. [102] "And which of us," responded Cotta, "can be so presuming as to desire to know or to be able to do anything that you do not know or cannot do?" [122] Here they all signified assent, looked significantly at one another, and began to talk together; for there was a wonderful modesty in Crassus, which however was not only no disadvantage to his oratory, but even an assistance to it, by giving it the recommendation of probity. (23)   Quintus Mucius Scaevola, mentioned in the last note but one. But if the ward, or his advocate, sought to recover more from the defendant than was due, he lost his cause. This I did, not from pride or want of politeness, nor because I was unwilling to aid your just and commendable aspirations, especially as I knew you to be eminently and above others formed and qualified by nature to become a speaker, but, in truth, from being unaccustomed to such kind of discussions, and from being ignorant of those principles which are laid down as foundations of the art." [150] For it is truly said also, that men by speaking badly make sure of becoming bad speakers. De Oratore, Book III is the third part of De Oratore by Cicero. 2:   But he who can produce and deliver nothing worthy of his subject, nothing worthy of the name of an orator, nothing worthy the attention of his audience, seems to me, though he be ever so confused while he is speaking, to be downright shameless; for we ought to avoid a character for shamelessness, not by exhibiting shame, but by not doing that which does not become us. 12, and Puffendorf, v. 3. s. 4, 5. c. 8; Gaius, i. (42)   There is a more particular statement of this cause between Gratidianus and rata in Cicero's De Off., iii. Brief history of the quarrel 6.2. [184] For a man, then, who is ignorant of these and other similar laws of his own country, to wander about the forum with a great crowd at his heels, erect and haughty, looking hither and thither with a gay and assured face and air, offering and tendering protection to his clients, assistance to his friends, and the light of his genius and counsel to almost all his fellow-citizens, is it not to be thought in the highest degree scandalous? What case, for instance, could be of more consequence than that of the soldier, of whose death a false report was brought home from the army, and his father, through giving credit to that report, altered his will, and appointed another person, whom he thought proper, to be his heir; and after the father himself died, the affair, when the soldier returned home and instituted a suit for his paternal inheritance, came on to be heard before the centumviri? An heir was allowed a certain time to determine, cernere, whether he would enter upon an estate bequeathed to him, or not. M. Tulli Ciceronis: De Domo Sua Ad Pontifices Oratio. Ellendt. Free shipping for many products! De Oratore, Book 1, Book 1 Marcus Tullius Cicero Full view - 1904. (47)   See Cic. ii. (7)   He seems to be Quintus Fabius Maximus Eburnus, who was consul 116 B.C., and who, it is probable, presided as praetor on the occasion of which Crassus speaks. 13. The patrician Claudii (whose family was the eldest of the name) claimed the inheritance by right of gens, on the ground that the freedman was of the gens Claudia, of which their family was the chief; . Proust. [143] I had learned and understood also, that before we enter upon the main subject, the minds of the audience should be conciliated by an exordium; next, that the case should be clearly stated; then, that the point in controversy should be established; then, that what we maintain should be supported by proof, and that whatever was said on the other side should be refuted; and that, in the conclusion of our speech, whatever was in our favour should be amplified and enforced, and whatever made for our adversaries should be weakened and invalidated. by E.N.P. Proust. "The almost incredible, unparalleled, and divine power of genius in Antonius appears to me, although wanting in legal knowledge, to be able easily to sustain and defend itself with the aid of other weapons of reason; let him therefore be an exception; but I shall not hesitate to condemn others, by my sentence, of lack of effort in the first place, and of lack of modesty in the next. Title. ** Your language must then be brought forth from this domestic and private exercise, into the midst of the field, into the dust and clamour, into the camp and military array of the forum; you must acquire practice in everything; you must try the strength of your understanding; and your private studies must be exposed to the light of reality. In Verrem. He that was condemned on such a trial, was decreed to pay damages to his ward to the amount of what his affairs had suffered through his means, and, in addition, by the law of the Twelve Tables, was to pay something by way of fine. [152] Such are the qualities which bring applause and admiration to good orators; nor will any man ever attain them, unless after long and great practice in writing, however resolutely he may have exercised himself in extemporary speeches; and he who comes to speak after practice in writing brings this advantage with him, that though he speak on the spur of the moment, yet what he says will bear a resemblance to something written; and if ever, when he comes to speak, he brings anything with him in writing, the rest of his speech, when he departs from what is written, will flow on in a similar strain. 1. the roman background: politics and culture; 2. de oratore in cicero's life; 3. the subject: the ideal orator; 4. form i: dialogue technique; 5. form ii: "rhetorical" techniques and the way to read de oratore; 6. background i: the quarrel between rhetoricians and philosophers, and cicero's position in it; 7. It was gained by Crassus, the evident intention of the testator prevailing over the letter of the will. Inst. Translated into English with an introd. Ed. [154] L   "But in my daily exercises I used, when a youth, to adopt chiefly that method which I knew that Gaius Carbo, my adversary, ** generally practised; which was, that, having selected some stirring piece of poetry, or read over such a portion of a speech as I could retain in my memory, I used to declaim upon what I had been reading in other words, chosen with all the judgment that I possessed. [100] "Then," said Cotta, "since we have got over what we thought the greatest difficulty, to induce you, Crassus, to speak at all upon these subjects, for the rest, it will be our own fault if we let you go before you have explained all that we have to ask." {33.} You can read books purchased on Google Play using your computer's web browser. By tempora is meant the state of the times as to political affairs; by aetas, the period of advancement in learning and civilization which Rome had reached. Did either of us, in that case, fail to exert ourselves in citing authorities, and precedents, and forms of wills, that is, to dispute on the profoundest points of civil law? : Cicero, de Oratore Libri III, Bd. A certain intellectual grace must also be extracted from every kind of refinement, with which, as with salt, every oration must be seasoned. But if he told the faults, or they were such as must be seen by a person using common care, the buyer suffered for his negligence, as Horace again indicates, Epist ii. . Download for offline reading, highlight, bookmark or take notes while you read De Oratore, Book 1: Book 1. 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